Well, isn't this special! John Edwards is now not only a presidential candidate, but he's taken on the role of being a spokesman for Jesus.

Isn't this just wonderful? If John Edwards were to win in 2008 we would actually have a spokesman for Jesus Christ in the White House! How can we turn this incredible opportunity down?

Edwards was being interviewed for a Christian website called Beliefnet.com. During that interview Edwards made the following revelations:

Jesus would be appalled at how the United States has ignored the plight of the suffering.
Children should have private time to pray at school.
Jesus would be upset with the selfishness of Americans.
Jesus would be upset about our country's willingness to go to war "when it's not necessary."
Jesus would be upset with our focus on our own selfish short-term needs.
I guess we should all stop for a moment to thank John Edwards for sharing Jesus' thoughts with us. Somehow, though, I think that Jesus would understand that there is no country on the face of the earth that does as much for the suffering as does the United States. Jesus is also probably away that Americans give more money to worthy causes than the people of any other nation. I'm also not convinced that Jesus would feel that removing a bloody dictator -- a dictator guilty of mass murders, rapes and wholesale violations of human decency -- would be categorized as "unnecessary." There are some who might think that getting rid of Saddam Hussein was actually a very Christian thing to do!

Anyway ... it's nice to know that John Edwards would don the mantle of Jesus' spokesman in order to further his political goals

Well, isn't this just special! Unique Dog seems to think that by expressing his belief that Jesus would be upset at the very unchristian things Americans do, John Edwards suddenly becomes a spokesperson for Jesus!

I guess anyone who ever asked themseleves "what woudl jesus do" automatically became a spokesperson for jesus because they dared to say what jesus would think!

My the desperate stretch in that argument is so pathetic it's actually comical.

I guess if you want to be in the good graces of Unique Dog, you must never assume that Jesus would be against selfishness, greed, and suffering. My my, how DARE Edwards say that he thinks that Jesus would be appalled by things the violate the values of Christianity!

As I stated above, I think Jesus would understand that no other country on the face of the earth does more for the suffering than the United States of America.

I`m also not convinced that Jesus would feel that removing a bloody dictator--a dictator guilty of mass murders, rapes and other crimes against humanity---would be categorized as"unnecessary."

I wonder how many of us would follow Jesus if he told us to get rid of all our possessions and go with him.

I`m afraid that not many would go...

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As I stated above, I think Jesus would understand that no other country on the face of the earth does more for the suffering than the United States of America.

I`m also not convinced that Jesus would feel that removing a bloody dictator--a dictator guilty of mass murders, rapes and other crimes against humanity---would be categorized as"unnecessary."

I'm sure Jesus would say that the loss of thousands of innocent lives that happened because of the removal of that dictator was unnecessary. I don't think Edwards is questioning the removal of Hussein, I think he (and other democrats and liberals) are questioning the way in which it was done. And if you recall, the reason Bush gave for the war in Iraq was because they possessed weapons of mass destruction (which in fact they did not) to go to war for a reason that was fabricated to cover up alterior motives is unnecessary, that's what Edwards is getting at.

And to say that the US's good deeds excuses it's bad deeds is ridiculous in my opinion. Saving one life doesn't make taking another okay. Feeding one starving child doesn't make it any more okay to neglect another. Edwards is simply pointing out the flaws that still exist and saying Jesus would probably be opposed to them.

We've known for several months that weapons of mass destruction have been found in Iraq. Despite the mainstream media and the Democrats' lying to the contrary, several chemical weapons have been found that qualify as WMD. But people have ignored the evidence...since it would blow a hole in their 'Bush Lied, people died' nonsense. To be fair, the Bush Administration has done little to correct the record on this issue.

Now a new report from the Pentagon sheds some light on just how many WMDs have been found, and it's a lot. We're not just talking an old Sarin shell here and there. No less than 500 chemical weapons have been found since 2003, according to a recently declassified defense department intelligence report. The weapons are of the mustard gas and Sarin nerve gas variety...nasty stuff.
So why isn't this major breaking news?

Because the WMDs are said to be manufactured before 1991....not in recent years. Therefore, the mainstream media and the Democrats don't count those. For some reason, they want WMDs made in recent years. Evidently the left likes their mustard gas just a little fresher. But that's not the point. This stuff can kill ... but to the left it's harmless.

All that matters is Saddam Hussein was lying when he said he got rid of all his WMDs. He clearly did not. Also, what do you suppose would have happened had Hussein sold some of these WMD's to Islamic terrorists? It wouldn't have been pretty. But this story will be ignored...and the leftist propaganda machine that says Saddam Hussein wasn't a threat will roll on.

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Originally posted by Unique Dog:
We've known for several months that weapons of mass destruction have been found in Iraq. Despite the mainstream media and the Democrats' lying to the contrary, several chemical weapons have been found that qualify as WMD. But people have ignored the evidence...since it would blow a hole in their 'Bush Lied, people died' nonsense. To be fair, the Bush Administration has done little to correct the record on this issue.

Now a new report from the Pentagon sheds some light on just how many WMDs have been found, and it's a lot. We're not just talking an old Sarin shell here and there. No less than 500 chemical weapons have been found since 2003, according to a recently declassified defense department intelligence report. The weapons are of the mustard gas and Sarin nerve gas variety...nasty stuff.
So why isn't this major breaking news?

Because the WMDs are said to be manufactured before 1991....not in recent years. Therefore, the mainstream media and the Democrats don't count those. For some reason, they want WMDs made in recent years. Evidently the left likes their mustard gas just a little fresher. But that's not the point. This stuff can kill ... but to the left it's harmless.

All that matters is Saddam Hussein was lying when he said he got rid of all his WMDs. He clearly did not. Also, what do you suppose would have happened had Hussein sold some of these WMD's to Islamic terrorists? It wouldn't have been pretty. But this story will be ignored...and the leftist propaganda machine that says Saddam Hussein wasn't a threat will roll on.

If Bush had real justification for his "war on terror" I would think he would be shouting it from the rooftops and the republican's mouthpiece, foxnews, would be reporting it nonstop.

Sometimes silence says a lot. If they really had something to say, they'd make sure people heard it.

And what would happen if Hussein sold weapons to Islamic terrorists? I don't know, but my guess is something similar to what happened when the US armed Osama bin Laden. But seeing as how Hussein had these since 1991, my guess is if he hadn't sold them by then, he wasn't going to.

In any case, the left has never said that Hussein wasn't a threat, just that we shouldn't have gone barging into Iraq without UN support and without any hard evidence to support a reason for the invasion. The whole "shoot first, ask questions later" routine is what leaves a bad tastes in liberals mouths. The resulting image of the US as a bully who can invade any country on a whim is also a problem. Are we to invade everyone we view as a threat? What about North Korea, we know for a FACT that they have nuclear weapons, but yet we don't invade them, but we get a hunch about Iraq and go storming in there? It seems Bush is picking and choosing what he views as a "threat". Yes, Hussein was a potential threat to the US, but so are a dozen other countries and there are many other problems equally threatening right here in the US, but somehow they all got ignored while we stormed into Iraq on bogus evidence. It just doesn't make sense.

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If Bush had real justification for his "war on terror" I would think he would be shouting it from the rooftops and the republican's mouthpiece, foxnews, would be reporting it nonstop.

I cannot believe this statement. This is the mentality of people who do not believe we are at war with Islamic fascists. We did not start this war but it is a justifiable war.
September 11, 2001 was not the first time we were attacked by these fascists, it goes ****her back than that.

-------List of terror attacks against Americans that I can recall right off hand.

*Shortly after Ayatollah Khomeini seized power in Iran, he began riding the slogan "Death to America." In 11/1979, a militant Islamic group took over the U.S. embassy in Tehran and held 52 Americans hostage. The rescue team sent to free those hostages suffered eight casualties.

*April 1983--17 killed at the US embassy in Beirut

*October, 1983--241 killed at the US Marine barracks in Beirut.

*December 1983--five killed at the U.S. embassy in Kuwait.

*January 1984--the president of the American University of Beirut was killed

*April 1984--18 killed at U.S. airbase in Spain.

*September 1984---16 killed at the U.S. embassy in Beirut (again)

*December 1984--two killed on a plane hijacked to Beirut.

*June 1985--One killed on a plane hijacked to Beirut.

*five killed in Saudi Arabia in 1995.

*19 killed in Saudi Arabia in 1996

*224 killed at the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, August 1998

*17 killed on the USS Cole in Yemen in October 2000.

*3000+ killed in the attacks on Septmeber 11, 2001 in New York City, Washington, D.C. and Pennsylvania.

You seem to have missed my point. Perhaps I need to make it clearer. A "war on terror" is impossible to win because you can't fight a war on an abstract concept. "terror" is an intangible concept, it's not physical, it can't be shot, it can't be blown up, yet Bush is fighting it with the physical- with the lives of soldiers and the bloodshed of innocent civilian bystanders. You can not fight a war against something that is abstract- THAT is why Bush's war is unjustified.

Violence is never the cure for violence. One murder does not justify another, an additional wrong will not right a previous wrong. And the US causing bloodshed in the Middle East will not convince terrorists that they are wrong.

I mean really, I just can NOT understand your thought process. Please explain to me how you think Bush removing Hussein from power is going to "win the war on terror".

Right now, there are people in the world that want to kill you. These people are fanatics. They're fanatics of the worse kind .... religious fanatics. They're intelligent. They have money. They have resources. They're determined. They don't care if they die ... and they're very very patient.

Their goal is to bring the entire world under Islamic law ... or do die trying. Either way they believe they will receive the reward of eternal paradise.

How do you fight an enemy like that? They will never stop trying to kill us. We say negotiations, they hear appeasement. We say peace plan, they hear surrender. We say peaceful coexistence, they plot to grow their numbers and their strength while we're wallowing in our own political correctness.

There is only one way to address radical Islam, and that is to completely and absolutely destroy it. We seek the Islamofascists throughout the world. We locate them, and then we destroy them.

This global war on radical Islam is a fight for our Western civilization and culture. It's a fight for our very way of life.

Whether it's deposing a terror-friendly regime in Iraq, or cleaning out Hezbollah from Lebanon, we have to prevail.

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Right now, there are people in the world that want to kill you.

There is no one in the world that wants to kill me personally.

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These people are fanatics. They're fanatics of the worse kind .... religious fanatics.

I know, gun toting Christians who think I'm mad for wanting the rights to abort my baby if I so choose.

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They're intelligent. They have money. They have resources. They're determined. They don't care if they die ... and they're very very patient.

Their goal is to bring the entire world under Islamic law ... or do die trying.

Now, I agree that there are a lot of crazy fanatics out there, but I think it's unfair to single out the Muslims.

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Either way they believe they will receive the reward of eternal paradise.

Nice deal for them huh? It's a win-win situation. Maybe I should join up, I like win-win situations.

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How do you fight an enemy like that?

With tolerance, understanding and middle ground.

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They will never stop trying to kill us.

Yes they will. Everyone gets old and dies eventually. Fanaticism is largely a phenomenon of the young and idealistic.

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We say negotiations, they hear appeasement. We say peace plan, they hear surrender. We say peaceful coexistence, they plot to grow their numbers and their strength while we're wallowing in our own political correctness.

Sounds like we're having a failure to communicate in that case. I suppose we'd better find out why we're unable to communicate clearly and solve the issue then. But I suppose you think violence is the solution to any problem you can't solve.

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There is only one way to address radical Islam,

Can we leave out the Islam part and talk about radicals in general, as I think the Islam part is irrelevant since the issue is not Islam, but extremists. That way we can take the religious prejudice out of the equation.

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and that is to completely and absolutely destroy it.

Ya know, I could replace "the west" for "Islam" in your argument and you would have EXACTLY what your enemy says about you. Do you realize that? You and the extremists you're arguing against have the EXACT same thought process.

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We seek the Islamofascists throughout the world. We locate them, and then we destroy them.

Funny, I can really imagine Osama bin Laden saying "We seek the sinful westerners out through the world. We locate them, and then we destroy them."

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This global war on radical Islam is a fight for our Western civilization and culture. It's a fight for our very way of life.[/quote}
"This global war on sinful western culture is a fight for Islamic civilization and culture. It's a fight for our very way of life."

[quote]Whether it's deposing a terror-friendly regime in Iraq, or cleaning out Hezbollah from Lebanon, we have to prevail.

"Whether it's destroying the capitalism and consumerism that leads to greed and sin by destroying the American economy, or by cleaning out the westerners from our nations who come to spread their sinful culture of sex and greed, we have to prevail."

Do you really not see how your thought process is EXACTLY the same as theirs? Do you not see that the same reasoning you use to justify our "war on terror" is the same reasoning that terrorists use to justify their attacks? Do you not see how you can not fight fire with fire? Do you really think an geneocide of Islamic culture is the solution? Do you not realize that extremist exist in EVERY culture in EVERY religion? Do you not realize that you can't just go around wiping out everyone who is different from you?

Please tell me you see that

Yikes You guys argue really good FIGHT NICE!

JK....I learn lots by all of these posts...Thanks for your insight. And in some cases lack there of hehe

UD...My baby (nephew) got deployed a little bit ago....I am bumming..I think we have talked about him/this before...Any who...HI, send me some good vibes will ya ? Hope your well chica! Now how demanding was that????

I hope ur Bro is home, safe and sound too

God Bless our Troops!

It's been said that this World War, sometimes called the War On Terror, has an enemy that is difficult to define. Nothing could be further from the truth. We know who the enemy is in this world war: it is the savages who practice radical Islam. We know exactly who they are and we know exactly where to find them: Iran, Syria, Hezbollah in Lebanon and Hamas in the West Bank and Gaza strip. Let's also be sure to mention the Wahabbis of Saudi Arabia and a good number of professors in American colleges and universities. This isn't rocket science...it's never been more clear exactly who the enemy is and where to find them.

So what should we do? It's time for the United States, Israel and whoever else values freedom and our way of life to eliminate radical Islam once and for all. The time to speak of toleration, negotiations and appeasement is past. Israel tried this route, and we clearly see what it bought them. We`ve ignored the problem far too long. Nothing but misery and death at the hands of the wonderful, peaceful religion of Islam.

Radical Islam needs to be eliminated from the face of the Earth. This must be done militarily, not through any more failed negotiations. Anything short of total annihilation of Islamic fascism is unacceptable. The radical Islamic government in Iran should be toppled and its leaders exterminated. Same with Syria. Israel should be fully unleashed and supported in an effort to eliminate Hamas and Hezbollah. It's time for them to breathe their last breath and be rewarded with their 72 virgins.

If you are an American, they want to kill you. Period.

One idiot protestor in Israel told a reporter "I think that Israel should negotiate with Hezbollah and Hamas and release Palestinian prisoners in exchange for the hostages. This way this story will come to an end." Yes --- Israel has it's share of leftist idiots too.

This world cannot exist in peace and prosperity as long as we approach radical radical Islam with a politically correct, Mr. Nice Guy hand-off game plan. Israel realizes what's at stake here, Americans need to be reminded.
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Sydneyjean, Hi! I`m keeping your nephew in my thoughts and prayers. For how long is he deployed? My brother is doing great. He is retiring in May. He`s given 22 years of service to the United States Navy. He`s moving to North Carolina in June.

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Sydneyjean, Hi! I`m keeping your nephew in my thoughts and prayers. For how long is he deployed? My brother is doing great. He is retiring in May. He`s given 22 years of service to the United States Navy. He`s moving to North Carolina in June. Smiler

I am so happy for your brother...He must be so happy!!! Man thats a long time! And please tell him Thank you

My nephew is supposed to be gone for just 6 weeks...We arent sure where he went tho...This is his second deployment...I guess he had to do another deployment bc he wants to be an instructor..I guess thats part of the criteria..When he comes home he will be moving to Alaska...Training others in Cold water survival.

Thanks for thinking about him...I knew you would understand...I couldnt be more grateful for that whole SWCC dealio...It saved his life...And he loves it!!! I dont know for exactly how long...but he just signed on to stay in there. I think he will make it his career as well